tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25393362.post1006647895073939476..comments2010-02-21T21:00:43.608-05:00Melissamsteven84@gmail.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25393362.post-62451828956014058232008-10-05T05:21:00.000-05:002008-10-05T05:21:00.000-05:00We are looking for a development platform type of solution and I am overwhelmed by all the choices. How does Alpha Five compare to these products? We have a LAMP environment now, so we would prefer something that runs on Linux, but are willing to go to Windows in order to gain the speed of development. We had already ruled out Filemaker. Now we are looking at these products and scratching our heads. We need something robust, but it doesn't have to be the most robust thing out there. It just has to be better than Saas things like formsite.com, dabbledb.com, creator.zoho.com, etc and it has to give us more bang for the buck than quickbase.com<BR/><BR/>So therefore, we are looking at:<BR/>awareim.com (runs on Linux)<BR/>dbnetsuite.com (Windows)<BR/>ironspeed.com (Windows)<BR/>webfuser.com (Windows)<BR/><BR/>Thanks for any perspective you can provide!Cindy Choiwww.rigpaus.netnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25393362.post-40974747817787689132008-09-22T17:57:00.000-05:002008-09-22T17:57:00.000-05:00i'm beginning or still has a lot to learn on ms access. then you want me to switch to alpha... trying to learn another thing without perfecting access solutions.<BR/><BR/>though i'm looking for alternatives which won't cost me much to develop desktop solution.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25393362.post-3050381997259434722008-09-04T12:22:46.817-05:002008-09-04T12:22:46.817-05:00We have updated the grid in response to Tom's comment. Thanks again, Tom. New grid is http://tinyurl.com/a5v9grid4Richard Rabinsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25393362.post-71024832907199866012008-09-03T08:48:12.904-05:002008-09-03T08:48:12.904-05:00@Martin Blackwell<BR/><BR/>Servoy is a desktop Java application. There are many, many, many PCs that simply don't or won't run desktop Java for various reasons. Also, desktop Java is SLOW and UGLY. You don't want to be hitched to Java.<BR/><BR/>'nuff said.Greg Swainenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25393362.post-45068046781793291102008-09-03T08:13:13.092-05:002008-09-03T08:13:13.092-05:00@martin blackwell ... so let me get this straight ... you're suggesting i should buy filemaker pro AND servoy? or i should ditch my FMP code base and learn java+servoy? i have 10+ years of filemaker databases that are stuck in client/server. i cannoyt get them to the web without a lot of time and trouble. not interested. so noew i have to learn java or servoy or alpha or c#/asp or what? filemaker is a dead end, that's for sure.trittonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25393362.post-13917682198898036842008-09-03T04:08:00.000-05:002008-09-03T04:08:00.000-05:00I agree with the Filemaker developer. I know that a significant number of FM developers are using Servoy for their next level of development. This has a web and Java client with a very similar concurrent licence cost. Alpha is now moving into a market space (web and SaaS) that has some significant players and the FM/Access argument is irrelevant. I would argue that Alpha needs a leg up in this market by integrating Isomorphic's Smart Client technology - that would take the user interface to a whole new level.Martin Blackwellnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25393362.post-65286773714323648842008-09-02T16:10:44.101-05:002008-09-02T16:10:44.101-05:00Tom, thanks for the note.<BR/><BR/>We did the best we could, using the public documentation that FileMaker provides. As a result of your comment, we went back and looked again.<BR/><BR/>We think you are talking about FM's "Scripting Steps." If so, that doesn't correspond to Alpha or Access language functions at all, in our opinion. It would be a different line on the spreadsheet entirely.<BR/><BR/>Is this what you are referring to? Also, we're happy to update the grid if you can source the info.<BR/><BR/>Thanks again for the comment.Richard Rabinsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25393362.post-2441910504587471782008-09-01T10:15:00.000-05:002008-09-01T10:15:00.000-05:00The results of this comparison suggest they were put together by an Alpha Five developer who was asked to have a look at FileMaker and Access. Perhaps s/he was trying to be objective and fair but the level of inaccuracy suggests the lack of familiarity, with FileMaker at least, made this impossible.<BR/><BR/>For example: '#functions supplied'[with FileMaker]: 0'.<BR/>I don't know how many functions come with FileMaker but FM provides a 248 page function reference manual and hundred of functions contributed by developers are readily available.<BR/><BR/>The document indicates that FileMaker Advanced doesn't include a debugger. I think a debugger has been included in the last four versions. (Including FileMaker Server in this comparison, and in many others, is meaningless, and suggests little or no knowledge of the software).<BR/><BR/>Comparing Alpha's 'Action Scripting' with FileMaker's mere 'Scripting' is surely meaningless, but again suggests greater familiarity with or preference for Alpha.<BR/><BR/>I have no doubt that in some respects Alpha has advantages over FileMaker in its development capabalities. FileMaker has some fundamental features lacking which are very frustrating to developers. Perhaps Alpha has some too (but I don't know Alpha well). However, this survey is not convincing enough to clarify these differences.<BR/><BR/>Tom DupreAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com